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All That You Touch You Change's avatar

I had to block that first creator you’re talking about because they love to throw rocks and hide their hand, and they’re incredibly condescending. A grown ass adult beefing with a 19 yr old.

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Madiswan's avatar

LITERALLY!!!!

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CJ's avatar

The 19 year old in question is me thank you 🙏🏾‼️

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All That You Touch You Change's avatar

I value your content and your perspective!! I’m sorry that these ppl are out here being weird because they have no emotional regulation!

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All That You Touch You Change's avatar

Also I feel whiplash with her because how did we go from talking about Palantir to courting Tori fans?!? It’s giving beige grifting.

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Madiswan's avatar

HELLO....WAKE IT UP!!

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Niles864's avatar

Congratulations to your boyfriend for finishing his first week of Nursing School :)!

Now as for our mutual, mutual I’m just at a loss for words. I’ve seen the comments she’s made and the videos. At this point I’m going to block her, because every video from her is turning into gotcha moments, infantilizing content creators she doesn’t like, and calling Renee “The Black version of Rachel Dolezal”🙄. I’m over it.

The gag is while I’m ready to believe the allegations thrown at TLP simply from the sheer volume of stories of people having traumatic and harmful experiences. When I look at the content she’s created surrounding the fallout between her and TLP all she gives is incoherent, nonlinear examples. There is no clear timeline of events despite me rewatching videos to get a sense of what exactly prompted the fallout. I just see a lot of yelling from TLP, and simultaneously some antagonizing behaviors from D. Which if D and T are trying to bring this to the courts, none of how this has been presented would give me any sort of reassurance that TLP is completely the problem. Other than again the sheer number of allegations and stories.

Last thing, something I was going to comment on your last post, but you address here is, it’s funny how everyone is expecting you to extend all this empathy, grace, and consideration. Yet they are so willing to go in on you in a very vulnerable time in your life, when you’ve lost so much. Like this is truly hypocrisy, not the faux “hypocrisy” a lot of these creators talk about as a way to silence creators.

P.S. Sending you a virtual hug for Thursday❤️.

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Madiswan's avatar

And thank you so much for your well wishes my darling!!

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Madiswan's avatar

Niles, thank you so much for seeing me so clearly. This comment made me smile so hard because it is exactly how I feel. I feel like we live in a time where critical thought is at a stand still and people who are dogmatic are ruling the way we are able to express our selves. Like literally everything you said in the last paragraph is like the biggest point like why do I have to be better than you when you insult me at all costs JUST because we do not agree on something......HELPPPP

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TT's avatar

I hope this doesn't come off as weird coming from a rando on the internet, but I want to extend my condolence to you and your family. I hope things start looking up for you guys.

I gotta say (cause I can be petty lol) that I am glad that you stopped being nice. That mutual (D) did not at any point (outside of her issues with TLP) deserve any of your grace or kindness. Especially when I realized that, from the beginning, they have only been interested in taking offense to everything while being offensive themselves and antagonizing others (like I said in my comment in pt 2, they love throwing rocks from their glass house and then hide their hands).

They (D) have made over 15 videos (very Tori-esque if you ask me) about her issues with TLP and others (like CJ and Khalil) and in not a single one of those videos have they brought up Congo, Sudan, Haiti, or Anti-Black issues in America except to antagonize the pro-pali movement (zero links to fundraisers, nonprofits, etc.). One of her latest videos is her saying how Renee is a cop because if she's not a cop "[she's] in a cult and a cult will make you a cop." Effectively characterizing the pro-pali movement a cult. She's literally proven herself to be a drama creator, but we are supposed to believe she's "not a liberal" and she's actually doing important work. And I'm not even mentioning how (like Madiswan said) she is in community with Tori, DJ Soulchild and others who have said some of the most heinous shit on Tiktok.

Last thing, I think it's the best course of action to not make anymore videos on Tiktok that can fuel this drama. It's pretty clear these creators (and their cult-like followers) are set in antagonizing you guys and characterizing you guys as villains.

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Madiswan's avatar

That's what I think, I love making them here way more though, such a more thoughtful and even tempered crowd. These people literally wasted my time!!!! I could be WAYYY MEANER I just would rather not be. UGH! Thank you for seeing the situation for what it was!!! I VOW TO NEVER BE MESSY ON TIKTOK AGAIN.

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Elif's avatar

I'm so sorry about your grandpa. It can't be easy to deal with especially after the loss you've all just experienced… I wish your family peace and comfort.

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Madiswan's avatar

Thank you so much for this. I hope for peace and healing for the next half of the year.

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Lnb's avatar

I’m sorry to hear about your grandpa, I hope you’re doing okay ❤️

Now, I literally never throw around this term, but when it comes to Imani (and you, CJ, etc…) i do think they’re jealous of your followings. I don’t think they understand why yous have amassed large followings, or why people listen to what you have to say because, frankly, they don’t understand what you’re saying. And it’s so obvious from how people respond to your videos, I don’t think they’re purposefully misrepresenting what you’ve said a lot of the time, I just think these conversations are above their heads cause they’re more focused on rage baiting and drama farming than actually educating themselves and others. And it’s not just them, it’s everywhere online 😅

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Madiswan's avatar

Thank you so much, you grandpa was a wonderful man!!

This comment is so sweet! Thank you so much for such a high compliment on the content my mutuals and I make, I notice that with Imani's posts in particular, they literally ALWAYS go above their heads and then they blame her for their lack of understanding!!

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CJ's avatar

YAYYYYYYYYYYYY WE ARE HERE

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Madiswan's avatar

HEY CJ!!!

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Zeddylux's avatar

I had to leave tiktok for this specifically. Grown ass adults behaving so unprofessionalaly letting their emotions dictate their actions is deeply embarrassing. I confess I don't know the exact situation you are in or the creators but I've sure I've seen it all before. Substack and Patreon and YouTube are not perfect but Jesus Christ they are better than this shit by a country mile

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